While reading the books, we all have certain POVs that, independant of how attached we feel to their characters, and what we think of them, are the ones we most look forward to reading. So if you had to pick the top 3 POVs that you most enjoyed reading for each book, which would they be?
To refresh your memory here you'll find a list of which POVs are in which book.
By now you all know i'm a sucker for lists and rankings... So... after some musing about this while trying to fall asleep last night, here's my list (I'm aware that it might change on a re-read, but that's how they're standing now). Looking forward to seeing whose ye pick!
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AGOT: 1. Catelyn // 2. Arya // 3. Tyrion
Bonus: Least looking fwd to reading- Sansa.
ACOK: 1. Tyrion // 2. Arya // 3. Jon
Bonus: Least looking fwd to reading- Daenerys.
ASOS: 1. Jaime // 2. Arya // 3. Catelyn
Bonus: Least looking fwd to reading- Bran.
AFFC: 1. Jaime // 2. Cersei // 3. Arya
Bonus: Least looking fwd to reading- Aeron Greyjoy.
ADWD: 1. Cersei // 2. Theon // 3. Melisandre
Bonus: Least looking fwd to reading- Quentin Martell.
-- Edited by Tir Airgid on Friday 16th of November 2012 10:24:19 AM
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-- Edited by Tir Airgid on Friday 16th of November 2012 01:12:08 PM
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“Fear is a strange soil. It grows obedience like corn, which grow in straight lines to make weeding easier. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground.”
Tir, you and I disagree often. I am not sure where to begin on this. I will be posting as my retorts emerge.
but make it a list! I loooove lists...
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“Fear is a strange soil. It grows obedience like corn, which grow in straight lines to make weeding easier. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground.”
I tried to stay close to what I felt the first time I read them. On a second re-read, Victarion gets big points for being an awesome read. He's just so incredibly stupid it's hilarious.
Jaime, Bran, Jon, Davos in whatever book. Theon (just ADWD). Mostly Jaime and Bran tho.
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I tried to stay close to what I felt the first time I read them. On a second re-read, Victarion gets big points for being an awesome read. He's just so incredibly stupid it's hilarious.
Victarion in ADWD is riveting! Fricking hillarious. Enjoyed reading him very much too.
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“Fear is a strange soil. It grows obedience like corn, which grow in straight lines to make weeding easier. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground.”
"I´d not prolongued the chewing up, Doc. Nor the being spat out. Not go out a cunt. It´s the dispatch I find inglorious. The whole delusory fucking self importance.". Al Swedgin ;).
“Fear is a strange soil. It grows obedience like corn, which grow in straight lines to make weeding easier. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground.”
Oh where do I begin? She's a walking cliche. Fantasy dragon-tamer princess of an unnatural beauty? Please. It's like every chapter of hers I ever read ultimately comes down to her having her silky silver hair combed, getting dressed, undressed, perfumed, eating figs, crying over some slaves she knows nothing about and burning some wretched fellow. Her chapters are repetitive, full of caricatures with strange names that I'm simply not invested in, as a reader. She holds no mystery for me, and despite all of her "growing" I still feel like I'm reading the diary of a 14 year old girl who's discovered Facebook Causes.
You forgot to add that's she an absolute idiot and a horrid ruler who makes the wort possible choices because she feels responsible for some people that are worse off now than before she came.
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I agree with you that she is cliche. But in a series of books thats deviates so far from the norm in fantasy isn't a small but of predictability needed to keep you in the realm?
Yes, you may be right. However I'm not a devoted reader of fantasy, so for me personally there was never any need of fantastical elements to keep me going. In my opinion, Martin writes better fantasy when he aims for mystery with a touch of horror, see Bran's chapters with Bloodraven, the shadow baby - all these seemed a tad more original and much better written than the whole badass queen on a dragon thing. Predictability is exactly the problem here. You know she's going to reach Westeros eventually, you know she'll have a barbecue there, and we knew this since book 1. That made all of her detours even more frustrating for me. If she got to Westeros sooner that might have meant surprises, but now? The only surprise that I hope for now is that someone will kill her bloody dragons and her with them, because then I could say "mmm I wasn't (totally) expecting this".
-- Edited by Macha on Saturday 8th of March 2014 02:47:36 AM
Oh where do I begin? She's a walking cliche. Fantasy dragon-tamer princess of an unnatural beauty? Please. It's like every chapter of hers I ever read ultimately comes down to her having her silky silver hair combed, getting dressed, undressed, perfumed, eating figs, crying over some slaves she knows nothing about and burning some wretched fellow. Her chapters are repetitive, full of caricatures with strange names that I'm simply not invested in, as a reader. She holds no mystery for me, and despite all of her "growing" I still feel like I'm reading the diary of a 14 year old girl who's discovered Facebook Causes.
Oh, Macha! Stop warging me!!!!!
This is the BEST description I ever read of Daenerys. Particularly this part: I still feel like I'm reading the diary of a 14 year old girl who's discovered Facebook Causes. It had me laughing out loud so hard!
can't stop
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“Fear is a strange soil. It grows obedience like corn, which grow in straight lines to make weeding easier. But sometimes it grows the potatoes of defiance, which flourish underground.”
what´s all this Dany bashing eh? Leave something for me!!!
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"I´d not prolongued the chewing up, Doc. Nor the being spat out. Not go out a cunt. It´s the dispatch I find inglorious. The whole delusory fucking self importance.". Al Swedgin ;).
Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water. Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.
Mrs Tormund - You didn't enjoy Tyrion's ACOK chapters?
I have to admit I did not. At least not the ones with the Battle of the Blackwater ones. My mind was somewhere else all the time. They just seemed so dry and lacking luster. I cannot explain why properly without waxing poetic.
Generally in fiction when I read something I have to visualize and hear it. The words just have to come alive. A cliche if I ever typed one, I know it but so it is for me. And between those POV chapters and Davos' ones that whole part of the book was killing me. Read it once, and never looked back. Maybe I'll read it again one day and see something else, or should I say SOMETHING!
"I´d not prolongued the chewing up, Doc. Nor the being spat out. Not go out a cunt. It´s the dispatch I find inglorious. The whole delusory fucking self importance.". Al Swedgin ;).
I am invested in Slavers Bay, that region of Essos fascinates me. When* Drogon entered the fighting pit and Dany attempted to tame him with the whip I had goosebumps. Plus I binged all five books back to back one summer so perhaps that helped me.
-- Edited by Al Swearengen on Saturday 8th of March 2014 11:51:29 AM
Al, you are not the only one to get goosbumps at that scene or like that part of the story. I got so worked up in the Meereenese knot it's not even funny. LOL I think that Daznak Pit chapter was badass and finally Dany got the inner strength to face Drogon as she should have done to begin with. She was a woman with a mission. She rode the darn dragon!
I am invested in Slavers Bay, that region of Essos fascinates me. When* Drogon entered the fighting pit and Dany attempted to tame him with the whip I had goosebumps. Plus I binged all five books back to back one summer so perhaps that helped me.
So the sun affected your judgement? just kidding, you had a reasonable explanation and all!
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"I´d not prolongued the chewing up, Doc. Nor the being spat out. Not go out a cunt. It´s the dispatch I find inglorious. The whole delusory fucking self importance.". Al Swedgin ;).
When* Drogon entered the fighting pit and Dany attempted to tame him with the whip I had goosebumps. Plus I binged all five books back to back one summer so perhaps that helped me.
I agree that was the definitive OMG moment for me in that whole book. It is funny, Martin basically solved the Meereenese knot by essentially hitting a giant *reset* button on Dany and basically let slavers bay rip itself to pieces with war and disease.
I have not re-read the books since 2011, so my memory is a bit hazy.
While FFC is my least favorite, I genuinely enjoyed the Cersei, Jamie and Brienne chapters...despite all the wild goose chases going around.
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When* Drogon entered the fighting pit and Dany attempted to tame him with the whip I had goosebumps. Plus I binged all five books back to back one summer so perhaps that helped me.
I agree that was the definitive OMG moment for me in that whole book. It is funny, Martin basically solved the Meereenese knot by essentially hitting a giant *reset* button on Dany and basically let slavers bay rip itself to pieces with war and disease.
I have not re-read the books since 2011, so my memory is a bit hazy.
While FFC is my least favorite, I genuinely enjoyed the Cersei, Jamie and Brienne chapters...despite all the wild goose chases going around.
It's not done yet, Don!!!! But you know what, doing nothing sometimes is actually doing a lot. Plus look at WWI there were more deaths by virus in the US army than war deaths. Talk about reality insertion in ASoIaF. Ooops this goes into a different forum hahaah