No I think it's D n D being nasty to the bookies ! Ha Ha ! No , you're probably right , it'll be WW ref I should think ... all the sweet summer children ...
Tyrion and the Spider are my new fav best buddies combo.
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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water. Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.
On the Bran pic, I'm guessing that that's not how the Three Eyed Raven really looks, just in vision form. I mean, Bran is standing in that pic and seems to be in Winterfell, so clearly this is some vision. Perhaps there is still hope for him to look properly creepy and awesome with the root sticking out of his eye (for the few shots we get of him in his physical form, at least).
Another packed season, remember last season omitted the Bran and Iron islands storylines entirely, I see now why they ended Stannis' one, so they had *some* breathing room in there.
Interesting, no pics from the Dorne storyline, don't blame them though.
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D&D wasted some screen time if they are cutting all Dorne after giving it an intro in Season 5. It would have been better to not even present it, and have Myrcella killed a different way. But I suspect HBO just didn't uploaded pics of Dorne for a different reason or they reserve that for a later date/season. I cannot imagine Benioff and Weiss would let the death of a Lannister/ Baratheon princess go with no consequences of some sort. And BookDorne is fine thank you very much!
D&D wasted some screen time if they are cutting all Dorne after giving it an intro in Season 5. It would have been better to not even present it, and have Myrcella killed a different way. But I suspect HBO just didn't uploaded pics of Dorne for a different reason or they reserve that for a later date/season. I cannot imagine Benioff and Weiss would let the death of a Lannister/ Baratheon princess go with no consequences of some sort.
Dear Strider, I refer you to the sunk cost fallacy. Never too late to cut the dead weight, redeem past mistakes. GRRM should do the same with Aegon.
And BookDorne was fine thank you very much!
I wish you could see me choke to death with laughter right now dear Strider!
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Prince Doran had a great speech before he sends the sand snakes to different missions, I hope they use that to move the Dorne story forward.
It was a pretty good speech! Shame his plan was so incredibly dumb did it made him look like an incompetent moron. The show could definitely do well with adapting that.
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I think Doran is going to get killed by Ellaria and the Sandsnakes. At this point, it's him or Ellaria, and I doubt the SS's will be down with Doran if he executes her. I suppose they could reconcile, but I don't think that's what the show is pointing to
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Doubt it Cosca. Also, you spoiler tagged the wrong part of your post. The tagged part is complete speculation based on 0 book material. Which is why I'll address it without spoiler tagging:
I doubt Ellaria will even try to kill Doran, let alone succeed. Ellaria killed Myrcella to force Doran's hand and throw Dorne into war with the Throne. At this point she's already achieved that- killing Doran will gain her nothing but her life, and it's kinslaying besides. I think Ellaria will die with honor early on in the season, or perhaps Doran will fake her death and then proxlceed to that book scene.
Killing Doran now will kill the last semblence of potential in that storyline, and would make me wonder why they bothered to introduce him at all.
Also, I think if they'd have cast Arianne and focused on her relationship with Doran (which was actually interesting and dramatic in the books) rather than focusing on Ellaria's revenge plot (which is the opposite of her book character) and the three two dimensional Sand Snakes as well as going as far as adding a silly teen love story into the mix... Dorne could have been good, or at the very least watchable.
While I agree with you, jent, Ellaria won't try and kill Doran, I absolutely disagree they should have included Arianne. I think the best decision they made with Dorne was to cut her. I find her relationship with her father boring as hell, then again, she is one of my least favorite characters in the books. Pretty much all she does is
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fuck, think about fucking, and try and get back at daddy 'cause she thinks he's trying to screw her out of her inheritance. When she learns her mistake, she does a 180 to yay, daddy. Ugh.
One of my big hopes for this season is we end up seeing exactly why they included Dorne, and while the introduction left a lot to be desired, right the proverbial ship on that inclusion.
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I really need to stop saying, "how stupid can you be?" Some people are starting to take it as a personal challenge.
Cosca wrote:I wish you could see me choke to death with laughter right now dear Strider!
You should see me laughing my butt off at "dear Strider"! You didn't call me THAT this morning now, did you?! Thank the Gods you fear Don and his banhammer!!!
I am also laughing at your "dead weight" comparison. You KNOW Jent's right about Dorne and Ellaria forcing the Tyrell/Baratheon/Lannister's into war. It's happening. you will be stuck with Dorne for a bit. I am though curious if it is happening now, is it happening if Dany comes to Westeros? when?!
My point was they could have taken what was salvageable in book Dorne and improved that shit (Doran and his big scene as well as IMO Arianne... what can I say, aside from some character flaws to iron out I'd much rather have her as the protagonist than the Sand Snakes and Ellaria).
Instead they scrapped Dorne entirely aside from Doran (pretty much everything else is either very different or cut) and the three most eye-roll-worthy characters in the series as well as creating their own, crappy version of Ellaria on top of it all. If Dorne's role in the story is simply to kill Myrcella and enter another war, D&D could have written that far more elegantly.
I honestly think Dorne could have been an interesting storyline. It didn't have to suck such massive, semen dripping cock. Oberyn is proof enough.