Tyrion eyes are green and black, and to my knowledge the only other character with mismatched eyes is Shiera Seastar - blue and green, but just because she was a Targaryen bastard I wouldn't exactly call that a Targaryen trait.
Yep, There's so much back story to play with ... I'm not saying the above is my theory as such , I was just looking for the passage that didn't say Brandon raped Ashara.
I would be relieved. I hate to think of Brandon raping anyone. I hate to think of anyone raping anyone, but Brandon was betrothed to Catelyn Tully if memory serves.
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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water. Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.
From a literary perspective, I still think Tyrion's complexity as a character would benefit more if it turns out that he - the ugly dwarf - was the only son the great Tywin Lannister ever had. Also, I like the parallels between Cersei (Joffeey too) and Aerys, not to mention Jaime killing his own father - these are my kind of twists, because they seem so tragic and poetic at the same time. Plus, I think there are way too many "if we were Targaryens" lines in the books and the show not to mean anything.
Cary - Ok, I'll be back with the 'evidence' shortly. :)
-- Edited by Macha on Monday 10th of September 2012 01:43:40 PM
Cercei certainly uses the Targaryans in her arguments for Jaime and she in twincest plenty of times. I.e. her conversation with Eddard Stark.
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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water. Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.
They did that because the purple eyes did not translate well to screen, not because of the story or anything like that.
You see, in Gormenghast the young Duke (Titus Groan) had violet eyes the whole way through. They did some special effects for it. I don't think it's that hard. I guess Emilia doesn't want to have to put on contacts each appearance. But the things one is supposed to sacrifice for art!
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But that scene where Jon Snow finds Ygritte after the battle at Castle Black...well, one has to be composed when riding the city bus, especially in a clergy collar, and I had to hold back the tears that were welling up in my eyes.
Cary, I start bawling whenever I see a meme that Macha or Tir put up about Starks, mostly. Every stinking morning I come in, look them up and bawl. So, yeah it happens. And yea, what Macha said, they were Lady Stark's nails. Like you're tearing your hair out in grief/anger, it's too much to bear.
-- Edited by Lyanna Stark on Tuesday 11th of September 2012 03:06:12 PM
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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water. Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.
Lyanna Stark wrote: Cary, I start bawling whenever I see a meme that Macha or Tir put up about Starks, mostly. Every stinking morning I come in, look them up and bawl.
Now I feel guilty.
-- Edited by Tir Airgid on Tuesday 11th of September 2012 04:31:26 PM
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The dual eyes of Tyrion would have been easy to do, yet they didn't, which makes me think it's not important to the story. They wanted to do the purple eyes, but it didn't work well on screen for some or other reason. My point being if Tyrion's eyes were relevant to the story they would have put it in.
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So what's to say the duel eyes didn't work either ? Ya see what I'm saying? I don't think it's important to the story, as purple eyes have been deemed not important ... yet they are in the books .... so I still don't get your differentiating between the two.:)
God I'm so tempted to retort... but I'll be the grown up here ....naaaaaaaa maybe Green and Bllack ones didn't either ... but he didn't mention it! Ha!
I looked last night / this morning? No last night... and thought , um , yeah I don't know that much off the top off my head ... now I've avoided it as I KNOW I would read others answers.... I can not be trusted . Har!
Wasn't it something like *she* was clawing at her face? And her nails felt like talons?
That is NOT AT ALL clear in the book. Maybe it's just some really bad writing at that point and we're all too fucking caught up in the tragedy of the event to notice it.
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"The tears burned like vinegar as they ran down her cheeks. Ten fierce ravens were raking at her face with sharp talons and tearing off strips of flesh etc. "
Ten fierce ravens = her fingers. Because they're ten. HA.
This is almost biblical, the tearing at her own face. And man, what nails. I'd like to see how she kept those up while on the trek from Riverrun to the Twins.
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"The tears burned like vinegar as they ran down her cheeks. Ten fierce ravens were raking at her face with sharp talons and tearing off strips of flesh etc. "
Ten fierce ravens = her fingers. Because they're ten. HA.
And seriously, GRRM. That's just awful writing. I guess he was all caught up in the horrific event too.
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But that scene where Jon Snow finds Ygritte after the battle at Castle Black...well, one has to be composed when riding the city bus, especially in a clergy collar, and I had to hold back the tears that were welling up in my eyes.
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Getting to know DonalNoyesArm here, I took special interest in Donal Noyes in the novel. And so I was especially saddened when Jon found him dead beneath the Wall
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Lyanna Stark wrote: Cary, I start bawling whenever I see a meme that Macha or Tir put up about Starks, mostly. Every stinking morning I come in, look them up and bawl.
Now I feel guilty.
-- Edited by Tir Airgid on Tuesday 11th of September 2012 04. :31:26 PM
No, no, Tir! I love your stuff truly. Please keep posting it. There may come a day when there are no Starks left to post. Then I'll be truly sad. Damn Martin! He better make it up to the Starks big time!
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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water. Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.
Getting to know DonalNoyesArm here, I took special interest in Donal Noyes in the novel. And so I was especially saddened when Jon found him dead beneath the Wall
Me too Ser Cary. I liked some of those wildlings.
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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water. Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.
Where does it say or allude to Brandon Stark raping Ashara Dayne? I feel mind fucked right now.
It doesn't Rygar. If you look further back in post I have quotes ... She was dishonered by "a man" and went to a Stark.
I think someone has drawn there own conclusions. Personally I think it was the King, Aerys and Barristan can't even admit it too himself, in his own mind "a man" .
I think the association with Brandon Stark comes from the fact that he seems to be portrayed more and more like the "wild" one of the family in ADwD (see Lady Dustin's conversation with Theon, for example).
Does anyone here have any theories about the connection between Bloodraven (who's mother was a Blackwood) and that enormous, dead weirwood at Raventree? I can't believe I missed this the first time I read ADwD, but it seems significant now.
-- Edited by Macha on Tuesday 18th of September 2012 03:12:24 PM
Oh ok. A bit of a stretch then. I would think that if Brandon had this reputation than someone like Cat would have been more overjoyed to have Ned take his place. From what I remember in her POV is that she loved Brandon and had to learn to love Ned. Now it could be that Ned left immediately after they were married and brought back a bastard upon his return that caused Cat to be reluctant at first, but again, since we have her POV chapters, I would think she would have had some reservations about Brandon when he was discussed.
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Where all the Ravens go at night ? I wondered if they were part of his entourage. Maybe it's connected to Coldhands ...As I still have a theory that Bloodraven called someone back by mistake ... like he tells Bran not to do with Ned . Maybe it happened there and it killed the tree ... Crackpot I know ...
That's very interesting, Yvy. Do you remember exactly what he told Bran?
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Bran seems to be able to, however. Ned hears only the rustling of leaves but Theon hears them calling his name. This theory of yours about Coldhands is very interesting, YvyB. Why would Bloodraven have called him back, though? Was it just an accident or did he want him specifically?
If I could find the words for the thought process ... darn ... I think he did it by mistake . It's the words of the CotF saying he's very old .. (Coldhands that is ) that makes me think he's been around a long time ... longer than any living human ... possibly a Stark which is why he hides his face as Bran may recognize him...
But possibly someone else ... Argh ! It could actually drive you mad thinking of all the subplots ..
If the birds flying at Ned's execution had happened in the book, I might have thought that Coldhands was Ned, who warged into the birds was called by BloodRaven and warged into a dead man.
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If the birds flying at Ned's execution had happened in the book, I might have thought that Coldhands was Ned, who warged into the birds was called by BloodRaven and warged into a dead man.
Have I stumbled into the Crackpot theory thread by accident?
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