You were right Macha, Fuller played our expectations against us, wonderfully in fact.
Loved the teacup scene, how it seems Hannibal wishes he could undo his actions with Abigail.
Verger is growing on me, the way he psychologically tortured that little boy and what he did to his sis!
I am anxious to find out a few more things....
So Freddie went to Wills, saw the animal harness of the beast killer ( which I assume Will DID kill in self defense ) That whole sequence where they struggle, fight and Will even smashes her car...she went with their plan afterwards??
What body did they use as the decoy? It is a real body I presume since Hannibal is a medical doctor and can't be fooled with fakery. A Jane Doe? WHAT DID THEY EAT AT DINNER?
Speaking of dinner that baby bird meal...whut da hell.
-- Edited by DonalNoyesArm on Saturday 10th of May 2014 01:30:10 AM
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"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
So I wonder how they will bring in the Dolarhyde character and how they will adapt his employment, as his job was a very 80's job. Maybe he will work for some kind of social media video company and that is how he gets exposed to his victims.
Well he can be a movie editor, putting together footage from kids birthday parties and weddings, and...wait. He could be YOU, Don!
DonalNoyesArm wrote:Verger is growing on me, the way he psychologically tortured that little boy and what he did to his sis!
but he´s growing on you ah??? You devil!
Oh god, those birdies, felt sorry for Will. The sound of the little bones That´s what my cat does to birdies too and you can hear the bones breaking when she´s chewing.
So, Crawford knows about the whole thing too, finally! Should we bet about Alanna´s death?
Again I need to see it with subs but really, lately I just LOL at all the crazy crap Hannibal says.
Oh lol, wheelchair on fire found its own parking lot, you saw that? i don`t know how to laugh anymore.
I also enjoyed very much the talking about Mischa.
The Margot´s surgery scene... very good but first time I feel the aesthetics gets in the way. The red clothes I mean. Was a very creepy and terrible scene. Idk, just save the staging for another scene.
Still not sure with Pit´s Mason, it´s too loony to me but Hannibal is having so much fun with him I don`t cuuuuur.
The Shiva/Kali statue Hannibal made... did he say to Will that Abigail was there? I think I heard that: Will said he would like to see Abigail again and Hannibal said: whell you just saw part of her. Mamma mia
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The Shiva/Kali statue Hannibal made... did he say to Will that Abigail was there? I think I heard that: Will said he would like to see Abigail again and Hannibal said: whell you just saw part of her. Mamma mia
Can someone remind me what happened to Hannibal and Mischa?
Lemme see if I can remember. In the books
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their home (can' remember if it was their castle or another estate) gets occupied by deserters in WW2. I think prior to this his parents die, and he's left alone with Mischa. Then the deserters kill and eat Mischa. Now here is where my memory gets fuzzy, because I don't remember if he was hiding and saw it all, or if he was forced by the soldiers to eat her as well. I think the books and Hannibal Rising have slightly different versions but I'm too lazy to look them up.
I'm extremely curious if they'll ever mention this in the show, because obviously they'll have o change the WW2 bit, since this Hannibal is much younger.
Oh that was just gruesomely wonderful, how does that work? How can they show someone cutting off their own face and feeding to dogs? Cutting off their own nose and EATING IT?!
Ok, so Jack knows that Will killed the "beast suit" guy. But even when you kill a person in self defense, since when is it ok to mutilate them?
Next week is the big showdown, I wonder if the show will kill off Jack or maybe Elana as she walks in on the mess? In any case I can't wait.
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first time I feel afraid in this show, was just a wee moment but good god!
Guess Will had to mutilate the guy to put a show for Hannibal?
Lol, poor Will really, watch the doggies eating that.
-- Edited by andrea on Saturday 17th of May 2014 08:04:13 PM
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that Beverly saw in Hannibal's basement?? Didn't we see her die tho, I can't remember?
Again, loved all the Hannibal references, like 'Given the chance, you would deny me my life.' 'Not your life.' and the one about the fox and the rabbit. I was half expecting the handcuff scene by the end of it.
And Bedelia, lol I love her to bits. You crazy, guurl. Fly off to Europe now and get some nice exterior shots.
But we never got to see Chilton not dead.
One thing I really didn't like about the episode, slowmo overdose. Come on, guys. Not every scene has to be a fucking metaphor.
Why didn't Will shoot Hanni?
Why after Alana and Will call the police/ambulance didn't any of em show up?
Why did Hanni leave without finishing any of them off?
Well the show is completely off book now, I don't mind really, not knowing is half the fun!
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"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
Why didn't Will shoot Hanni? Why after Alana and Will call the police/ambulance didn't any of em show up? Why did Hanni leave without finishing any of them off?
Well the show is completely off book now, I don't mind really, not knowing is half the fun!
I didn't understand Will's "you were supposed to leave" line.
Did Will call the ambulance? I think he dropped it after Alana told him Jack is inside? BTW, I laughed so much with Hanni's "He's in the pantry". Anyway, the ambulance was probably just around the corner but they didn't want to show that, to make us think they're all be dead by that time.
I think at this point Hanni just didn't care if they would live or die, he knew he'd have a hard time finding an excuse for why three people would be found (nearly) dead in his home. But I imagine he genuinely thought they'd die. The ladies are toast either way, there's no point to them in the future. Will obviously lives, and so does Jack, just read an interview where Fuller says Fishburne will be back, though maybe not in so many episodes because he has another project he's working on.
Alana called 911 (I guess) saying there was a shooting and later Will called the ambulance, gave them the address and all.
The ambulance, police and the FBI will be there for next season because the FBI must know Will and Jack are at Hannibal´s place. To me Hannibal believes that Will and Abigail are dead but he can´t be sure about Jack because he actually didn´t see how bad the wound in the neck was. But is blah blah. Will and Jack will be alive. Or Cinthya Nixon would become Jack for next season?
We never saw Abigail dead actually. She went to her father´s cabin and found Hannibal there. She realized who Lecter really was and he told her: I killed more people than your father. She asked: are you going to kill me? and Lecter said: I´m so sorry Abigail, I couldn´t protect you in this life. That was ep.12 of season 1. Had to check because I thought she was dead but the only thing dead about her was her ear. The one that Will puked and made him guilty of all Hannibal´s crimes. A red herring.
I wonder if Hannibal really wanted a "family" with Will and Abigail, impossible to know what´s going on in that twisted precious mind. I mean, after you see him in the plane with Bedelia you know that he knew all allong what was happening, or at least parts of it, but so what about the precious friendship with Will? What would be Bedelia´s part in this "family"?
That fight, good lord, amazing. Hannibal trying to break down the pantry´s door. Yes, "Jack is in the pantry" made me
Sometimes i just can´t believe the amount of crap Hannibal says. I´d hate that in any other show.
The sound the wounds made with the piece of glass or knives ...the blood splashing all over the place, the rain and the rain of blood. Fuller is a crazy The slowmo was a bit annoying but wut the hell, still pretty. The whole scene in Hannibal´s house was gold and the Abigail surprise was perfect, her death tho...
Hmmm what about Freddy? you think Hannibal had time to use his underground passages ( every time) to give her some? Ugh, I want season 3 NAO, dammit!
-- Edited by andrea on Saturday 24th of May 2014 04:12:18 PM
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Why didn't Will shoot Hanni? Why after Alana and Will call the police/ambulance didn't any of em show up? Why did Hanni leave without finishing any of them off?
Imma quote Hannibal talking to Alana here Donnie, "Be blind, don´t be brave".
That´s the thing with this show. I guess Will was shocked? he thought we would "surprise" Hannibal, and as he said he also had a surprise for Will. Lecter was the one in control all the time. But who knows.
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andrea wrote:What would be Bedelia´s part in this "family"?
Apparently Fuller initially wanted Abigail to be on the plane with Hannibal. That's what her reveal would have been, because they didn't think they could get Gillian Anderson for another season. So with that in mind, I don't think Bedelia was a part of his family plan, I think he approached her after realizing Will is gonna betray him, and she just went for it because she's fascinated with him? Or she wants to...study him? Or maybe its just because he's a hunk.
Macha wrote:Or maybe its just because he's a hunk.
that bitch.
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Hmmmmmmmmm I imagined Abigail would be alive, no body no murder! I see her as a Theon/Reek to Hannibal without all the Myranda bullshit which I quite appreciate. I am a bit too drunk to indulge in all the other storylines or trying to make sense of them
Hmmmmmmmmm I imagined Abigail would be alive, no body no murder! I see her as a Theon/Reek to Hannibal without all the Myranda bullshit which I quite appreciate. I am a bit too drunk to indulge in all the other storylines or trying to make sense of them
I completely forgot about her, I swallowed the death bait
It was like a Reek but I guess she also reminded him of Mischa? better not dig in that mind.
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"I´d not prolongued the chewing up, Doc. Nor the being spat out. Not go out a cunt. It´s the dispatch I find inglorious. The whole delusory fucking self importance.". Al Swedgin ;).
God you're quite the stupid one, I explained it literally in the four words after that sentence.
bullshit
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Hey mrs. Filmstudent, how about not falling for all the tropes in this show!
the guy who eats raw red herrings says that
But hey, totally believed she was dish.
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I watched all the shows Fuller directed but never saw him in an interview, found this one. He´s very funny and interesting. At the end he talks about Mads
There´s all these guys talking too much but it´s ok
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Om nom nom! Now who's got a good eye for buildings? I'm thinking Italy... ?
I think that building is a cathedral in Firenze (Florence), can´t remember the name atm but I think it´s the one with the famous dome sorry, too lazy to look for it. I remember a couple of great artists that worked in there. It´s very old dammit. Santa María something, ufa. It´s always saints or virgens!
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it's actually unbelievable how much insane and bonkers they put in last season, I already forgot half the stuff.
Hooo yeah, on second viewing it doesn't make much sense if you think about it, but man what a fun, gruesome ride! I wonder what deliciously disgusting ( or disgustingly delicious) they will cook up for next season?
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"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
"I´d not prolongued the chewing up, Doc. Nor the being spat out. Not go out a cunt. It´s the dispatch I find inglorious. The whole delusory fucking self importance.". Al Swedgin ;).
The first ep of season 3 was hauntingly beautiful, truly this show has some of the best cinematography on TV.
The energy did feel very different, it was very dreamlike and a bit surreal, and while it was interesting that it focused on
Hanni and Skully, it did make me miss the others.
I kinda miss the old investigative feel of the other seasons, I hope it comes back.
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This show makes me feel the weirdest things. Didn´t "nolegs" Eddie break your heart? he´s so good.
They still saying so much crap in the dialogues . I`m so biased, I´d hate this in other show but it doesn´t seem pretentious or snob in this show. Looks just like fun.
I must say I like mah Hannibal alone, not loving this whole thing with Scully but it´s ok because I have no clue where this is going.
Gotta love how he makes us love Hannibal. I want him to eat every douche in the show! but then there´s eddie
Mads was delicious btw, some of his expressions are amazing and I just noticed how awesome it is his accent. A huge psycho who talks like a kid. Great choice, even if it was´t on purpose.
as ever, we got 0 answers to all the crazy of season2 last episode!!!
And the most interesting part for me, appart from Eddie, are they going to show the insides of Hannibal´s kitchen the whole season? that was really really cool. And creepy and cool.
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