neat Ry! I gotta say I'm beyond curious about this Kylo Ren and how did he become a Sith Lord. Was he trained by Anakin? That seems to be what the trailer implies through the voice over when he looks at Darth Vader's melted mask. It also looks like Fin will be the next Jedi. Another think Leia cries in Han's arms. Will Luke die? why would she cry otherwise? ALL WILL SOON BE REVEALED!
I am going Thursday night, one week from today. No expectations other than I cant wait to yell that Carrie Fisher looks fat.
On that topic, I dont understand why she has this vendetta against Hollywood for hiring skinny women to play roles. She bitched about having to look fit in the original trilogy. Um.....its a job, and you got paid. You could have been as fat as you wanted but you would not have been in that movie. And you would not have been paid. So....suck it up, fatboy, or in this case, throw it up and hit that treadmill because that is the way the world is, and it aint changing....
Just ranting. I am not going to yell that Carrie Fisher looks fat, however I will yell that Harrison Ford is a cunt and looks like he is about to die from Aids.
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It was good, definitely the best one since Jedi. My expectations were low and I wasn't disappointed. My only gripe was that its following the same formula as the original trilogy so there really isn't a new story here, and it's super cliche. Also, way too much silly humor, like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade type silly humor, probably the most humor in a Star Wars movie to date. I will say that Adam driver and the girl that plays Rey were amazing , in fact all the new actors were really good . This is probably the first Star Wars where there is some real acting going on, oh and Carrie Fisher sucks balls. 8/10.
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I agree with Ry. Good film, better than VI but not as good as IV and V because there's way too much retread. I hope the next two films will not use the same structure as the old movies because this one was pretty much a 1:1 copy of A New Hope (I won't go into detail) with only a few fresh plot points.
I also think the villains, aside from Kylo Ren, are kinda meh. The big bad looks like a two dimensional villain. Other than that, the movie was really fun to watch. I love Rey.
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Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water. Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.
I really enjoyed it but they could have done a lot better, very unoriginal and lack of imagination. The only thing these writers had in mind was "let's not enrage the nerds and just rehash all the same old shit." I really wished they put Leia back in the bikini though, maybe next movie.
Exactly that Japie. Its the SAME story, however entertaining and I would watch agan. However, I would rather they put Carrie Fishers dentures back in instead of in a bikini though.
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God, that was such a bore Ok, not entirely awful, some cute moments here and there mostly because I like robots, some good acting with Driver of course and the Rey girl but the rest of the acting was very poor (I guess it was the same with the other movies but I was too young to notice). Seemed like a joke to me, appart from the very silly humor as Ry said, there´s no emotion at all, no fear, no epicness or whatever you call it. I don´t know who JJ Abrams is but he suck as a director, at least in this movie. You so lucky to have Adam Driver as an actor,
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playing a badie
and you do all you can to make him look like a fool, come on.
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Those scenes where he´s raging and breaking all and everybody laughing at the teather.
Sad. As others also said, it´s a shame that they took so long for a movie with no original script, that´s the chickenest of all moves. Grow a pair Abrams whoever you are or fucking Disney once in your life. Oh and the thing that happens on that bridge, you know what I´m talking about, don´t tell me you didn´t see it coming from miles away. the more I remember the less I like it. Still better than the last horribles ones, of course. Though if those movies missed a leading role this one lacks a script or a director who takes the movie seriously. It´s nothing more than a set up for the next one. Money grabbing to me.
Oh yes, some shots I loved, the ones that didn´t need a script. Those were good I guess. I´d say, if you can´t beat the first ones stop trying, I mean, at least do better with the actors if you can´t come up with a simple script for this kind of movie. Damn
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Well, I loved it. And I think Harrison Ford stole every scene he was in too. The young actors were pretty convincing for my taste and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Many throwbacks to first 3 eps, it's true and I liked them all. For young people who haven't seen any SW movies until now or had the patience to watch "old movies" since gramma was a young girl, this one was "amazing" Loved the matinee atmosphere where everyone hooted and whistled and applauded like it was a live performance (I should go more often). Interested to see who Rey really is and what's her background story. That's about it.
I loved it! It blew the prequels out of the water, though honestly anything was better than that shit. Only gripe that it veered a bit to close to more than a homage, esp with
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.but other than that imma watch it again...
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Oh and Bravo for killing Han, he was supposed to die all the way back in Return of the Jedi so his death carried weight here and was earned.
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Yeah, I agree Don. It was fun, but nothing new. Maybe thats what GL wanted, a story that keeps repeating itself each generation. Amazing how even Menance parallels this story.
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Pretty damn good. I mean, the Death Star 3.0 was pretty damn bullshit. What the hell with that splitting laser. And that Sun stuff was just moronic. I know it's Star Wars, and scientific accuracy has never been important, but c'mon, everyone should have frozen to death![/spoiler]
But I think they really did well with the characters, and that mattered the most to me. It was fun, well paced, well written and acted. If only it had had an original plot! Rey, Finn, Poe, all good, Rey in particular. Han had a great send-off I think.
I think the degree of pathetic and tormented they did with Kylo Ren was very good, they were never gonna have a villain as imposing as Vader, no point in trying, so might as well take it in a new direction.
Hopefully in the next movie they go in interesting directions, they've got a very solid foundation. If it's an Empire Strikes Back rehash, I'll be fucking pissed.
8/10 seems about right
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Agree completely with Cosca. The DS3.0 was the worst thing about the movie. It they'd have put something different in the end that isn't a complete rehash, the movie would have been miles better. That was taking nostalgia too far, to the point of being straight unoriginal and boring. Other than that, great stuff.
I think the degree of pathetic and tormented they did with Kylo Ren was very good, they were never gonna have a villain as imposing as Vader, no point in trying, so might as well take it in a new direction.
Someone mentioned that Kylo Ren character is how Anakin should've been, imposing, but with also that vulnerability underneath.
And WTF Captain Phasma got totally Boba Fetted! Such a badass looking character that does jack-shit! But at least they didn't kill her off!
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Yeah, they really shouldn't have put Phasma upfront in the marketing, she was basically generic henchman no.34. We never even saw what happened to her!
Another complaint I have:
Who the hell are the Resistance? Did the entire Republic get blown to shit? Was that Coruscant? Who exactly are the First Order? All of this was seriously vague. A New Hope was pretty self-explanatory: Empire was totalitarian state, rebels were rebels. The First Order are like some weird creepy cult, that are somehow super powerful. Also, no-one seemed to give much of a fuck that like, 70 billion people just died. Once again, Death Star 3.0 didn't deliver thanks to these things.
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I took it as the Resistance was formed against the First Order, exactly as the Rebel Alliance was formed against the Galactic Empire. Just another nod to the original movies.
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The whole resistance bullshit pissed me off to no end. It's like all those poor ewoks died for nothing in Jedi. That was just such terrible lazy story telling, "hmm it doesn't sound cool if the good guys are in charge and the bad guys are the resistance, so fuck it let's just call the good guys the resistance again." The more I think about this movie the worse it gets.
Agreed JapieQ. Having the New Order be the 2015 "Rebel Alliance" would be new and refreshing. Show that starting a new Galactic Republic aint all roses, allow for corruption to seep in. Show the horrors that would lead to some sympathy for those systems remaining in the former Empire.
But that is not Disney. Disney likes to retell stories. Disney likes their cookie cutter Heroes who never poop and Villians with prominent jaws and squinty eyes.
I plan on a rewatch and I bet my rating will go down, I chalk up most of my 8/10 to nostaligia. And Rey's supple bottom.
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The movie does not make it clear, but from what I understand the Rebels and Empire went onto a full out war after the Emperor died. The renmants of the Empire became a fringe group ( improbably well funded it seems ). While the new Republic was born.
Also what I don't understand, Star Killer base was a planet? Did it blow up the other planets within its own solar sysem? If so didn't need to drain a star to do so?
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I loved the new chick, very cool. Miss the Sith, they scared the crap out of me. This new baddie acts like he needs a just has a fit all the time. We laughed out loud. Perfect for Han to die and also stole every scene, IMO, too. Missed all the Jedi and Yoda. Love the new droid, BB8 is it? He's adorable. 8/10
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you saw it Ly! I was cracking up half the time myself I think they were geniuses with the BB8 too. I'm going to miss Han Solo. But it was him all over like in the original trilogy!
Loved the movie, loved all of it. Even the predictability of it, which was. from what I understand, a nod to the fan base for having such awful prequels. I understand the next two will be completely different.
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that's right Boss! I was just about to write the same. I'm just going to watch it again 
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Ok, not entirely awful, some cute moments here and there mostly because I like robots, some good acting with Driver of course and the Rey girl but the rest of the acting was very poor (I guess it was the same with the other movies but I was too young to notice). Seemed like a joke to me, appart from the very silly humor as Ry said, there´s no emotion at all, no fear, no epicness or whatever you call it. I don´t know who JJ Abrams is but he suck as a director, at least in this movie. You so lucky to have Adam Driver as an actor, 
the more I remember the less I like it. Still better than the last horribles ones, of course. Though if those movies missed a leading role this one lacks a script or a director who takes the movie seriously. It´s nothing more than a set up for the next one. Money grabbing to me. 
just has a fit all the time. We laughed out loud. Perfect for Han to die and also stole every scene, IMO, too. Missed all the Jedi and Yoda. Love the new droid, BB8 is it? He's adorable. 8/10