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Al Swearengen wrote:

Disagree completely, this season has felt extremely rushed and hastily written.

 I agree with this in the fact that we have not been given a chance to bond with or learn who the Sand Snakes even are.  I don't have a clue who shows their tits, who has a whip and who is using the spear.  Not enough Doran by far. 



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Lyanna Stark wrote:
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Disagree completely, this season has felt extremely rushed and hastily written.

 I agree with this in the fact that we have not been given a chance to bond with or learn who the Sand Snakes even are.  I don't have a clue who shows their tits, who has a whip and who is using the spear.  Not enough Doran by far. 

 The Dorne scenes have almost been blink and you'll miss them.

More time should of been dedicated to that region instead of wasting it on Grey Worm and Missandei's atrocious romance.



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Lyanna Stark wrote:

 I agree with this in the fact that we have not been given a chance to bond with or learn who the Sand Snakes even are.  I don't have a clue who shows their tits, who has a whip and who is using the spear.  Not enough Doran by far. 

 Its easy Ly, the one that showed her boobs is "Booby Sand", the grumpy one with the spear is "Pouty Sand", the one with the whip is "Whippy Sand!"

Easy Peasy!  



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I'm sure those 2 and a half minutes of Missendei and Grey Worm would have made such a difference.

If they'd cut those scenes, we would just have had fewer scenes in the season. They wouldn't have gone "well, we cut one scene, better replace them". The episode times are flexible.

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DonalNoyesArm wrote:
Lyanna Stark wrote:

 I agree with this in the fact that we have not been given a chance to bond with or learn who the Sand Snakes even are.  I don't have a clue who shows their tits, who has a whip and who is using the spear.  Not enough Doran by far. 

 Its easy Ly, the one that showed her boobs is "Booby Sand", the grumpy one with the spear is "Pouty Sand", the one with the whip is "Whippy Sand!"

Easy Peasy!  

 



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The show does what it can, even 10 hours is barely enough and they have snipped out 6 or 8 characters from the books. The book series is an adaptation nightmare, and to think Hollywood wanted to adapt the whole series in a 3 movie trilogy at first.

So in some ways we are quite lucky, it could've been SO much worse.

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I still think they should of increased to 13 episodes years ago. Would benefit the show so much.



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I'm sure they would if they could.

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It has been explained that the logistical pipeline of the show does not allow it. The production scale, schedule, editing and FX need the amount of time to turn-around and deliver the show on a yearly basis.

A sign of this is that there are barely any deleted scenes each season, they shoot exactly and only what the script lines out, no time for extra stuff.

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I don't buy that, HBO has the means and resources to make it happen. D & D are a pair of wimps, if they think GOT's schedule is hectic they should take a look at what Dr George Miller went through with Fury Road!



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They've already got three crews running simultaneously for 180 days. There's only so much they can do without it becoming an unmanageable mess, it's got nothing to do with resources. But I guess it's more convenient to think that D&D are just lazy assholes



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The fact they shot Dorne stuff in the middle of Ireland does indeed lead me to believe that they're lazy assholes.



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Yeah, they're so lazy they even got the Alcazar. Come on man. That beach was fine, beaches look alike. Why wouldn't they use a more convenient location when it basically looks the same.

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I don't buy that, HBO has the means and resources to make it happen. D & D are a pair of wimps, if they think GOT's schedule is hectic they should take a look at what Dr George Miller went through with Fury Road!

 A 2 hour car chase movie ≠ 10 hour cinema quality series, and you know that! calmyotits spank



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Yeah, they're so lazy they even got the Alcazar. Come on man. That beach was fine, beaches look alike. Why wouldn't they use a more convenient location when it basically looks the same.

Dorne is a freaking desert man!!! there isn't long ass grass near the beaches. That was lazy. It's not like they haven't shot in Dorn'ish looking locations before.



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DonalNoyesArm wrote:
Al Swearengen wrote:

I don't buy that, HBO has the means and resources to make it happen. D & D are a pair of wimps, if they think GOT's schedule is hectic they should take a look at what Dr George Miller went through with Fury Road!

 A 2 hour car chase movie ≠ 10 hour cinema quality series, and you know that! calmyotits spank

Please go and read up on the issues Miller had to overcome making Fury Road. And he did all of this in his 60's!!



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Dorne is more temperate near the coast as I understand. The desert is in the middle.
Even countries that are largely desert are often quite green near the ocean.
Algeria for example:
i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/18/article-0-12A66EFD000005DC-49_634x382.jpg

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I never pictured Dorne as all desert. Then again I skipped most those chapters.

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I pictured Dorne as the Northeast of my country. Really dry inland but rainy an green on the coast.

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Booby Sand Don they casted Arienne's big brown nipples, no? I think. I didn't get a good look at them teehee

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I never pictured Dorne

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I pictured Dorne looking like Morocco or like parts of the Middle East, not a gloomy beach in the middle of Northern Ireland! I can't believe people are even defending those scenes, it looked nothing like Dorne. I mean they've even made a big deal out of how the climate is so brutal it makes the people want to "fuck, fight, fuck while fighting, fight while fucking."

Anyway hopefully now that Bronn and Jaime are at the Water Gardens we won't have to ever visit that dank beach again!



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all i remember from that scene are boobs.
Gloomy beach? What are you smoking? those scenes were sunny as fuck lol
looked like some beaches i go to.

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Dolan wrote:

all i remember from that scene are boobs.
Gloomy beach? What are you smoking? those scenes were sunny as fuck lol
looked like some beaches i go to.

huh? I don't recall seeing much sunlight or a Mediterranean climate.



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It looks pretty much like the beaches in the south of France where my mother is from. Mediterranean doesn't mean constant sunshine

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There is nothing wrong with the fertility of the land that Jaime and Bronn came ashore on:

"Dorne's rivers provide some fertile lands and even during a long summer there is enough rain and other supplies of water to keep Dorne habitable.[3] Inland water is almost as valuable as gold, and wells are jealously guarded. "

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Please go to the "Westerosi, climate, weather and a geography" thread.....

Oh thats right, we don't have that one since its freakin' stoopid!

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No Don, the important thing is that AL WAS WRONG

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Well I concur with Sand Snake comments , we had no time to invest in them as characters . I hate pugly snake !
Loved Tyrion being set free ... hate Hotah ... no where near BIG enough. Okay so Bronn is Oakheart . Nice to hear him sing ...
What else ... Fit mad monk Lannister FINALLY spilling the beans .... Sansa , Sansa, Sansa .... die your hair again love , you had balls with black hair ... red hair = whimp! There's sooooo many ways you could get revenge ... clocks a tickin' .
I have invested sooo much into this saga , I will see it to the end , but ... common .. it's surely time to wrap up the Stark kids revenge ... Isn't that what it's all be for ? After all ?

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Hotah? Nowhere near Big enough? That guy is fucking huge! 6 foot 5 and broad as hell

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Well it doesn't translate onto screen if that is the case.. He looks teeny !

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Michael Clarke Duncan would of made a great Hotah back in the day cry



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Title for ep 10: Mother's Mercy.

Synopsis: Synopsis: Stannis marches. Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei (Lena Headey) seeks forgiveness. Jon is challenged.

1. Battle of Winterfell prelude
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That's going to be one jam packed episode. That must mean ep 9 is Drogon roasting some Harpies.



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Title for ep 10: Mother's Mercy.

Synopsis: Synopsis: Stannis marches. Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei (Lena Headey) seeks forgiveness. Jon is challenged.

1. Battle of Winterfell prelude
2. Dothraki Sea
3. Walk of Shame
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 freakout its happening! freakout



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Anyone else feel like D & D are giving George one last chance to get his arse in gear? Seems like the big spoilers won't be happening until season 6 judging by that synopsis.

INB4 dat smiley is posted wink



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Jon is challenged....by Ramsay?

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Jon's anus is challenged....by Ramsay's cock?

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Thats hot. Bastard on Bastard.

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Thats hot. Bastard on Bastard.

 



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Al Swearengen wrote:

Anyone else feel like D & D are giving George one last chance to get his arse in gear? Seems like the big spoilers won't be happening until season 6 judging by that synopsis.

 I would say that is mighty decent of them, George has till April 2016 to get his book out before season 6....hmmm...think he will make it?



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I think when Stannis needs to decide who to burn, he will choose to burn Selyse, I have a gut feeling. Cuz no way in hell he is burning Shireen.

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Anyone else feel like D & D are giving George one last chance to get his arse in gear? Seems like the big spoilers won't be happening until season 6 judging by that synopsis.

 I would say that is mighty decent of them, George has till April 2016 to get his book out before season 6....hmmm...think he will make it?

I think he'll make it. His publisher is going to release whatever he has finished by the end of the year and rush it out. HBO is not doing Martin a favor by not having the big spoilers by the end of the season. For a TV serial, these huge cliffhangers are part and parcel. For a book series, it's cheating the reader.



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if this show lasted 20 seasons, martin still wouldn't have finished the pooks!

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Anyone else feel like D & D are giving George one last chance to get his arse in gear? Seems like the big spoilers won't be happening until season 6 judging by that synopsis.

 I would say that is mighty decent of them, George has till April 2016 to get his book out before season 6....hmmm...think he will make it?

I think he'll make it. His publisher is going to release whatever he has finished by the end of the year and rush it out. HBO is not doing Martin a favor by not having the big spoilers by the end of the season. For a TV serial, these huge cliffhangers are part and parcel. For a book series, it's cheating the reader.

 I concur. Though I thought he'd get his ass in gear and get it out by Season 5.  



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It seems Stannis won't make it to Winterfell at all, maybe it ends that Sansa and Theon escape and they meet Stannis on his way to Winterfell.

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I just hope the new Rattleshirt is better than the old Rattleshirt.

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Anyone else feel like D & D are giving George one last chance to get his arse in gear? Seems like the big spoilers won't be happening until season 6 judging by that synopsis.

 highfive Yes! I read today the synopsis for the last episodes, and not only they stuck to much of the Feast & Dance but also doesn't look like they cut whole storylines either with the possible exception of fAegon. According to the casting speculation: Euron is in for next season, Balon will die. Oldtown trip is in too and Dany flying to the Dothraki sea looks more probable by the second. Now all we need is Stoneheart, Brynden Fish and the Riverlands confirmation!



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