Well unless Thoros of Myr is around a bush somewhere, no one will get revived. Back in season 3, Melly was completely flabbergasted that Thoros was able to revive peeps. It is not a trick she knows.
Hiding around a somewhere? I would LOVE that! I am missing Gendry, big time! At this point, I am guessing Melly Sanders is missing Gendry, too
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Also, Hizdahr is totally the Harpy right? The way he refused to look bad in front of the other masters sold it for me
Yep, I thought the same. (BTW, I like this actor a lot.) In the books it was heavily hinted the Harpy was the Green Grace, right? With Hizdahr benig heavily involved as well?
The scene with the dragons made me so disappointed in Dany, what are you doing gurl? For all we know the dude that got torched and eaten by Rhaegal and Viserion was totally innocent. But I guess she had to make him an example, still. Things will only get worse.
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Hizdar was also heavily hinted as being involved! In fact so heavily hinted the Ser Grandpa totally arrested his ass. I think they worked together. But maybe Martin was throwing us and Ser Barry a red herring... Hmm. Time for Winds of Winter to be published I suppose.
Well unless Thoros of Myr is around a bush somewhere, no one will get revived. Back in season 3, Melly was completely flabbergasted that Thoros was able to revive peeps. It is not a trick she knows.
Thoros will pop right out of Melly Sander's just as Stannis perishes. There's a reason they shot that scene, I think it was to give Melisandre the confidence to try out the technique.
I was pondering over Cersei's prophecy, anyone else think Dany,Sansa, Marg etc are a red herring and that the prophecy itself will drive Cersei so mad that she'll kill herself?
I was pondering over Cersei's prophecy, anyone else think Dany,Sansa, Marg etc are a red herring and that the prophecy itself will drive Cersei so mad that she'll kill herself?
Unless the Queen that takes over is Shireen haha.
SO we think this season will actually show the battle of Winterfell? Seems a bit odd if they show that AND Hardhome the same season, don't think the show could handle that.
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Don, I'm thinking we'll see it. I hope he's kicking some Bolton ass. I mean other than that what else would he do splattered with blood and in full armor in a vid right before S5? They won't let it end in a cliffhanger. Or and this is the worst alternative, he gets butchered in the snow by the Boltons and this is where we see Selyse in the snow. Probably begging so the Boltons don't kill Shireen? or Stannis? I'm not sure. This is all so depressing. I got attached to the little one and to Dillane's Stannis.
Don, I'm thinking we'll see it. I hope he's kicking some Bolton ass. I mean other than that what else would he do splattered with blood and in full armor in a vid right before S5? They won't let it end in a cliffhanger. Or and this is the worst alternative, he gets butchered in the snow by the Boltons and this is where we see Selyse in the snow. Probably begging so the Boltons don't kill Shireen? or Stannis? I'm not sure. This is all so depressing. I got attached to the little one and to Dillane's Stannis.
Please, don't let it end that way.
I want Stannis to FIGHT!!
"I defeated your uncle Victarion and his Iron Fleet off Fair Isle, the first time your father crowned himself. I held Storm's End against the power of the Reach for a year, and took Dragonstone from the Targaryens. I smashed Mance Rayder at the Wall, though he had twenty times my numbers. Tell me, turncloak, what battles has the Bastard of Bolton ever won that I should fear him?"'
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SO we think this season will actually show the battle of Winterfell? Seems a bit odd if they show that AND Hardhome the same season, don't think the show could handle that.
I agree with TW, they're defintely doing both battles, but from Hardhome I expect something like Craster's Keep or slightly bigger. The battle of Winterfell hasn't been teased in any of the trailers, right? Smart move, I have no idea how big it'll be, but I do expect a huge element of surprise there too that'll shift the odds.
That's why I' a bit worried because it seems they're building up Stannis's chances quite a lot, and I'm sure LF hasn't told Sansa all of his plans.
I wonder if we'll get to see the clans, Karstarks etc adding their men to Stannis's army, and the Freys coming to aid the Boltons. Kinda wish we get to see the latter in the next two or three episodes, and the former as the element of surprise I was mentioning, but maybe I shouldn't get my hopes up.
i almost dont want Brienne to kill Stannis, he has been such a treat this season. But fuck that bitch, he needs to go.
You know what excites me about this? Brienne wouldn't just stab him behind his back, and I don't see her executing him if she'd catch him without his weapon. They'd have to fight!
But really, she's too confident she'll kill him eventually, so I expect the opposite. She won't be able to, or something will change her mind. She can't carry all of her vows with her forever.
I don't think we'll get to see the Battle of Winterfell. I think either something happens to prevent the Battle happening (Brienne kills Stannis before it starts for example) or we get a Tyrion Season 1, where we cut to the aftermath of the Battle. I just don't see where they would put the scene. Both Daznaks and Hardhome are sure to be at least 20 minutes long, and there's all the other story lines to consider.
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But really, she's too confident she'll kill him eventually, so I expect the opposite. She won't be able to, or something will change her mind. She can't carry all of her vows with her forever.
It is quite unnerving and exciting not knowing what will happen. Will Stannis defeat the Boltons but then get killed by Brienne? What if Stannis saves Sansa? Will Brienne see that he is not all that bad and forgive him? Or will Stannis get slowed down so much by the winter snows that he never even gets to Winterfell and some tragedy befalls him there?
OH THE HUMANITY!
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I don't think we'll get to see the Battle of Winterfell. I think either something happens to prevent the Battle happening (Brienne kills Stannis before it starts for example) or we get a Tyrion Season 1, where we cut to the aftermath of the Battle. I just don't see where they would put the scene. Both Daznaks and Hardhome are sure to be at least 20 minutes long, and there's all the other story lines to consider.
Yeah, I think we are raising our expectations too much, I even forgot about Daznaks pit sequence, that one was promised to be huge by the producers, and so was Hardhome. Methinks Winterfell will suffer in scope because the others are already big.
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Not with the Brienne kills Stannis again! Cosca, if she kills him, I will blame you forever!!!!!! I was never a battle of Winterfell in S5 believer to be honest. I thought it would be Deepwood Motte ( I know, I know, but it was something I liked!), but I got converted to the Ice battle on the way. I suppose they don't need to show it. We'll have to wait and see.
I knew they were doing Oldtown. Everyone said they'll cut it, but I knew it. Which also means something important will happen there. And that we may yet see Sarella (aka the only interesting Sand Snake!).
If there's no battle of Winterfell then what's going to be the water cooler moment this season? "For the watch", Drogon in the pits?
I think Hardhome, the Pit and the Walk of Shame will definitely be water cooler moments. Maybe even the whole Mercry bit, depending on how they do it. Then there are two that may or may not happen this season (and could still happen in season 6) which are the battle of Winterfell and For the Watch. With the amount of setup they're both getting this season, I think at least one if not both will be included.
If there's no battle of Winterfell then what's going to be the water cooler moment this season? "For the watch", Drogon in the pits?
I think Hardhome, the Pit and the Walk of Shame will definitely be water cooler moments. Maybe even the whole Mercry bit, depending on how they do it. Then there are two that may or may not happen this season (and could still happen in season 6) which are the battle of Winterfell and For the Watch. With the amount of setup they're both getting this season, I think at least one if not both will be included.
Yes, I have no doubt at all that Jon's going down at the end of this season
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If there's no battle of Winterfell then what's going to be the water cooler moment this season? "For the watch", Drogon in the pits?
Even if we don't get For the Watch this season, I think Hardhome is going to be insane (I mean, we know it involves wights, and it could even involve WW's), Daznak's will be, as well (I mean, c'mon, Dany riding off on Drogon!?!), and the Walk of Shame, albeit it in a different way, is going to be pretty off-the-charts, too. Those 3 things will definitely have people buzzing.
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Yeah Jon's definitely getting shanked in either ep 9 or 10. I get the feeling they're going to play up the Watch having severe casualties and losses at hardhome. But with no Melly Sanders around how is Jon going to survive? cause in the show Bran seems to be the only Stark who can warg.
I also have a feeling D & D will kill Bronn or Jaime off to create their own water cooler moment. Methinks Areo is going to slice Bronn in half
The Unsullied are gonna FREAK THE FUCK OUT...when Jon gets shanked.
Might be the last big surprise we know over them this season. Next season, we are are Unsullied.
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I guess I'm just not 100% convinced ftw will happen this season because I'm not sure how they'll resolve it. Will they do it and have Jon resurrected, will they save it for the beginning of next season, or will they end the season on a cliffhanger like it was in the books. I mean, I don't know a single book-reader who thinks Jon will die and stay dead, but none of us have any guarantee.
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I guess I'm just not 100% convinced ftw will happen this season because I'm not sure how they'll resolve it. Will they do it and have Jon resurrected, will they save it for the beginning of next season, or will they end the season on a cliffhanger like it was in the books. I mean, I don't know a single book-reader who thinks Jon will die and stay dead, but none of us have any guarantee.
It will be a cliffhanger for Jon's storyline, mark my words, last shot of Jon in season 5 is him on the ground, bleeding out.
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I guess I'm just not 100% convinced ftw will happen this season because I'm not sure how they'll resolve it. Will they do it and have Jon resurrected, will they save it for the beginning of next season, or will they end the season on a cliffhanger like it was in the books. I mean, I don't know a single book-reader who thinks Jon will die and stay dead, but none of us have any guarantee.
It will be a cliffhanger for Jon's storyline, mark my words, last shot of Jon in season 5 is him on the ground, bleeding out.
That's what I think most likely, and also what I'd most like, but I'm trying to leave myself open to other possibilities.
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It makes sense, it make a helluva cliffhanger, and will GRRM at least between the end of this season and the next to resolve it in his book first, before season 6 spoils it.
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I agree that the cliffhanger is most likely. But I wouldnt at all be surprised if he got stabbed in 9, and Melisandre ressurected him in 10. Liam Cunningham was saying something about the Team Dragonstone relationships coming to a head, I could see Melisandre abandoning Stannis to go back to the Wall mid march.
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I agree that the cliffhanger is most likely. But I wouldnt at all be surprised if he got stabbed in 9, and Melisandre ressurected him in 10. Liam Cunningham was saying something about the Team Dragonstone relationships coming to a head, I could see Melisandre abandoning Stannis to go back to the Wall mid march.
Hmmmmm, interesting.
Huh, if Stannis gets killed it would make sense for Mellisandre to seek a new vessal for her prophesies. It would also explain why she was so drawn to him this season.
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It makes sense, it make a helluva cliffhanger, and will GRRM at least between the end of this season and the next to resolve it in his book first, before season 6 spoils it.
Well, that's another good reason to leave it on a cliffhanger, too...light even more of a fire under GRRM's ass to get TWOW finished and out before season 6 begins.
We know Ghost will be back for episode 7, so that reestablishes him, and we could be left with Jon bleeding out, then the last thing we see is a change in Ghost's eyes. If Jon going momentarily into Ghost is even how it all goes down.
I absolutely think Melisandre bails on the march to Winterfell and goes back to the Wall. I even had the thought maybe that's what that picture of Selyse on the ground is about...she's flipping out Melisandre is abandoning them.
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It makes sense, it make a helluva cliffhanger, and will GRRM at least between the end of this season and the next to resolve it in his book first, before season 6 spoils it.
I absolutely think Melisandre bails on the march to Winterfell and goes back to the Wall. I even had the thought maybe that's what that picture of Selyse on the ground is about...she's flipping out Melisandre is abandoning them.
Well, we've figured it all out. No need to watch now.
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and I just read an article where it said Arya's training would really be kicking into high gear in the May 31 episode, which is the Hardhome episode, so even with those two things, it will be a big episode.
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I'm all in for Dorne. I'm not ashamed to say it, I liked everything so far about it. Yes, the pointy shoes too What?! No one complained when Varys had them! So there... Also they are exactly over the top as I've imagined they'd be and as their father was before them. And Cooper and Darnell have a damn good reason for being there. Good consolidation and execution so far. Yep, I've said it! It's like watching classic adventure/ Indiana Jones rescue type in the South Westeros.
I wonder when I'll stop laughing about Cooper and Darnell.
It's like the Westerosi version Dukes of Hazzard.
I'm just waiting for Bronn to name his Dornish steed General Lee.
I can't wait to see more Dorne!
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Me too! I am a bit worried, as next episode seems to be packed to the gills. Sansa's wedding, trails in KL, Jaime and Bronn Vs The Sand Snakes, Aryas training and Tyrion meeting the slavers.
I am pretty sure I missed something didn't I?
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Al, I liked the scene. I think was good for the show plot. In the show all three Tyene, Nym and Obara are on the same boat. There is no reason for which they should introduce them separately. Books have Nym asking for murder of the 4 Lannisters, Nym for war by crowing Myrcella and waiting in Dorne prepared for war when the IT send their forces as a result of their rebellion, and Obara asks to proactively take the war to the Tyrells first. Different approaches to vengeance which required different meetings with Doran and thus a better intro for each individual.
For the show the scene was short, compact, and they set up the plot nicely. Obara got a distinct background with her origin story very confident and arrogantly spoken as Oberyn would have done it, Tyene was presented as the young daughter who supports her mom no matter what. Nym is the only one that was left up in the air with no individual intro. Yet all three looked like they have a streak of Oberyn in them. I don't know what to say. I thought it was good for how they seem to have structured the Dorne plot.
There's no doubt that their intro in the books is much better, but the scene in the show mostly did the job. I'm sure they'll flesh out each Sand Snake individually later (Obara is already alright). My biggest problem with the scene was that the Sand Snakes were just camping out in a tent in the middle of nowhere (and that the location looked exactly like Jaime and Bronn's location). They could have CGIed Sunspear in the background or something. The tent thing was a lame excuse for a set, I expect more from GOT.
And Sansa's wedding is going to be the worst thing ever. Prepare yourselves.
There's no doubt that their intro in the books is much better, but the scene in the show mostly did the job. ........And Sansa's wedding is going to be the worst thing ever. Prepare yourselves.
I don't remember their intro in the book at all! All I remember is Doran arresting them ( might that happen this season?)
Sansa's wedding "the worst" in a good way or a bad way?
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Whoaaaa that ending is gonna fire some people up. But if you think about it, it happened in the book, but to another person...and it was actually worse in the book as Theon did more than watch.
This will be the tipping point, Ramsay WILL die. By Sana, or Theon, or Brienne or Stannis....but dudes going DOWN!
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Damn, right up the end I was still doubting it was going to happen, but there you go. Undoubtedly this is going to create quite the shitstorm. I'm still processing it, so much depends on how they handle it in the next few episodes.
And yeah, Boltons are beyond fucked. Sansa, Theon, Brienne, Stannis, the Northmen. Oh, and LF is going to come destroy them with his army if all that fails
Also, I thought that having Margaery arrested on perjury charges at Loras' trial was a very smart bit of adaptation.
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I think I might be done with the show, there's only so much shit I can take. Killing off Selmy might of irked me but I can kinda get the reason behind it, raping Sansa no just no. It's blatantly obvious to me that D & D have fallen in love with shocking audiences, I no longer believe they care about the future of this series, they're just in it to fabricate water cooler moments and generate online buzz.
I am devastated right now, I've just witnessed a wonderful series become complete trash
Oh and to top it off they've also ruined Dorne in the process, nice going guys.
somewhere? 
I would LOVE that! I am missing Gendry, big time! At this point, I am guessing Melly Sanders is missing Gendry, too 
I think they worked together. But maybe Martin was throwing us and Ser Barry a red herring... Hmm. Time for Winds of Winter to be published I suppose.
I know, I know, but it was something I liked!), but I got converted to the Ice battle on the way. I suppose they don't need to show it. We'll have to wait and see.
in his own words, in response to yesterdays ep.