Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Flea Bottom Forum → Season 6 General Topics → Is Jon Snow dead? Yay or nay? *We are all Unsullied!*
 

Topic: Is Jon Snow dead? Yay or nay? *We are all Unsullied!*

Post Info
DonalNoyesArm
Wielder of the Baratheon BANHAMMER
Status: Offline
Posts: 4649
Date:
Is Jon Snow dead? Yay or nay? *We are all Unsullied!*
Permalink  
 

Since this is a mystery for both book and tv show viewers, lets field this question.

I am in the group that says: "Yes Jon is dead, but he will be resurrected". 

Like many have mentioned, Melly Sanders is at the wall, and the Red Priests have the power of resurrection. 

Thoros of Myr mentioned in season 3 that he can revive Lord Beric from most fatal injuries, Arya asks if Thoros could revive a person who has been decapitated, and Thoros says no. The fact that Jon was only gut stabbed but not had his head chopped off ups his chances.

From a story standpoint, having Jon die completes his "Nights Watch" arc, he came in as a recruit, become commander, battled the wildlings. There is nothing left for him to do there. By dying he is released from his vow, and can now go on other adventures.

Just my two cents.



__________________

"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
Cosca
Knight of EscarGoT
Status: Offline
Posts: 472
Date:
Permalink  
 
Jon being dead and being resurrected is the only option that makes sense.

__________________

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life"  - Terry Pratchett
Cary Storm
Lord Bannerman Of The Smileys
Status: Offline
Posts: 2420
Date:
Permalink  
 
If Jon Snow is actually dead (and doesn't return), George R.R. Martin goes into the realm of completely irrelevatn writers who can spew words on a page but can't create a cogent narrative. And D&D have a piece of crap to finish up.

__________________

"There's no cure for being a cunt."  Bronn
"King Stannis is my god."  Davos
"Who the fuck is Jon Snow?"  Locke
Rygar
Grand Maesterbator
Status: Offline
Posts: 3538
Date:
Permalink  
 
Yes, Stannis is dead. dance

__________________

"If you drink, don't drive.  Don't even putt."  - Dean Martin
Macha
Priestess of R'hllor
Status: Offline
Posts: 3348
Date:
Permalink  
 
I agree with everyone saying that the only valid option at this point is for Jon to be dead, but brought back to (some sort of) life, courtesy of Melisandre.
Look at it this way, the show had no business bringing her to the Riverlands, and had no business rushing her trip back to the Wall, unless she is there to do what Thoros has done so many times.
And with Stannis defeated, what else is there for her character to do, other than to find a new messianic figure to cling to? Her interaction with Jon this season clearly set all of this up.


__________________

"Fuck you, Andy Pandy. I AM the loop."

Lyanna Stark
Lady Of The Blue Winter Rose
Status: Offline
Posts: 2688
Date:
Permalink  
 

I'm going out on a limb here (that never happens derp) and he wargs into Ghost.  "Ghost" is the last thing he says in the books.  What D&D will do, I have no idea.  They tend to shy away from the supernatural in the show more than the books do, understandably so, to some extent.  So, Melly/Thoros whomever "fixes" Jon's body well enough that he will at least survive and he wargs back into it.  Or, better yet, Bran does it, helps him/fixes it.  My



__________________

Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water.  Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.

 
Atreyu
Banned in Six Kingdoms
Status: Offline
Posts: 1220
Date:
Permalink  
 
Fitz wargs into the wolf. Chade exhumes Fitz's body, does some hocus pocus with the possessed wolf and Fitz reanimates.

So it is written. And so it shall be.

__________________

As soon as those cameras are off I am going to fuck that little dog.
jentario
Lord Paramount
Status: Offline
Posts: 793
Date:
Permalink  
 
Yep. In the books at least, this will happen. In the show it's only a bit less certain givev that the show is much less into resurrections than the books. But if it doesn't happen, it would make the BWB's inclusion in the show entirely pointless and annoying, which I'd rather not believe.

__________________

Dildomace- because rubber is for pussies
Cosca
Knight of EscarGoT
Status: Offline
Posts: 472
Date:
Permalink  
 
The Brotherhood were great characters and they gave Arya a storyline, that's justification enough I think. That it will provide Melisandre with the inspiration to resurrect Jon is the cherry on the cake, though I also hope they come back next season

__________________

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life"  - Terry Pratchett
jentario
Lord Paramount
Status: Offline
Posts: 793
Date:
Permalink  
 
The BWB's inclusion doesn't necessitate the inclusion of resurrection. In season 3, it was there for shock value and had no effect on the story. And the cutting of LS and Jon's (theorized) resurrection from the books just because "the show is better than resurrecting characters" would make what happened with Berric completely retarded.

Having them show up again in a major way could solve that issue if Jon stays dead, I guess.

__________________

Dildomace- because rubber is for pussies
Lyanna Stark
Lady Of The Blue Winter Rose
Status: Offline
Posts: 2688
Date:
Permalink  
 

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/game-thrones-emilia-clarke-shares-good-news-jon-144321278.html



__________________

Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water.  Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.

 
TormundsWoman
Defender Of The Realm
Status: Offline
Posts: 2792
Date:
Permalink  
 
Knew it! Thank Ly. Just wanted to post my new sparkling avatar!

__________________

 
TormundsWoman
Defender Of The Realm
Status: Offline
Posts: 2792
Date:
Permalink  
 
watchersonthewall.com/kit-harington-spotted-again-filming-begins-at-garron-point/ I don't think he counted on peeps following he's every move

__________________

 
Atreyu
Banned in Six Kingdoms
Status: Offline
Posts: 1220
Date:
Permalink  
 
Jon's insipid pout suggests the idea never entered his pretty brain.

__________________

As soon as those cameras are off I am going to fuck that little dog.
Cary Storm
Lord Bannerman Of The Smileys
Status: Offline
Posts: 2420
Date:
Permalink  
 
Hurrah!

__________________

"There's no cure for being a cunt."  Bronn
"King Stannis is my god."  Davos
"Who the fuck is Jon Snow?"  Locke
DonalNoyesArm
Wielder of the Baratheon BANHAMMER
Status: Offline
Posts: 4649
Date:
Permalink  
 
Worst kept secret evar! facepalm

__________________

"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
Rygar
Grand Maesterbator
Status: Offline
Posts: 3538
Date:
Permalink  
 
Maybe he is just tommen for Edd like the rest of us?

__________________

"If you drink, don't drive.  Don't even putt."  - Dean Martin
Lyanna Stark
Lady Of The Blue Winter Rose
Status: Offline
Posts: 2688
Date:
Permalink  
 

How I feel about this topic:

Happy-Hour.gif

teehee



__________________

Rhaegar, despite wounding Robert, was struck down with a massive blow from Robert's warhammer, which scattered the rubies encrusted in Rhaegar's armor under the water.  Rhaegar died with Lyanna Stark's name on his lips.

 
BlueDragon
Squire
Status: Offline
Posts: 21
Date:
Permalink  
 

my magic dragon will bring Jon back

she even has the pearl of wisdom for Jon Stark Targarean

I will not abide him being a shadow of himself. Was Christ less or more after three days?



__________________
DonalNoyesArm
Wielder of the Baratheon BANHAMMER
Status: Offline
Posts: 4649
Date:
Permalink  
 
I hope they make his resurrection dramatic, I would assume dying would really mess you up, you can't just walk that shit off.

__________________

"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
HaiYouGuise2
Lady Dondarrion
Status: Offline
Posts: 75
Date:
Permalink  
 

110.jpg



__________________

That's LADY Dondarrion to you
DonalNoyesArm
Wielder of the Baratheon BANHAMMER
Status: Offline
Posts: 4649
Date:
Permalink  
 
HE IS RISEN!!!!

__________________

"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
HaiYouGuise2
Lady Dondarrion
Status: Offline
Posts: 75
Date:
Permalink  
 
I saw somewhere they asking whether he was going to be relatively normal or total psycho zomb, but I don't think there's any danger of that given that Beric Dondarrion was mostly normal and there was never any psycho zomb LSH.

__________________

That's LADY Dondarrion to you
DonalNoyesArm
Wielder of the Baratheon BANHAMMER
Status: Offline
Posts: 4649
Date:
Permalink  
 
I think we might get a more ruthless Jon, Beric did say that when you are rivived you are "less". I wonder how that will be for Jon.

Maybe less gullible is a start.

__________________

"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
Macha
Priestess of R'hllor
Status: Offline
Posts: 3348
Date:
Permalink  
 
DonalNoyesArm wrote:

Maybe less gullible is a start.

 Ay, come now Donnie, he hasn't been that gullible since he left the wildlings in Season...what was it? I think Ygritte's death was the tipping point. Not sure if ruthless, but surely he'll be even more determined maybe not only to lead the fight against the WW, but also to avenge his family, especially now that he realizes the Night's Watch isn't what it was anymore. 



__________________

"Fuck you, Andy Pandy. I AM the loop."

Cosca
Knight of EscarGoT
Status: Offline
Posts: 472
Date:
Permalink  
 
Yeah, realising the Night's Watch isn't worth his time will likely be the biggest consequence. Jon Stark 5eva.

That said, I agree with DNA that he'll be more ruthless. I could see Old-Jon forgiving Olly for instance. But I think New-Jon is gonna cut that poor kids head off, along with the rest of the mutineers.


__________________

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life"  - Terry Pratchett
DonalNoyesArm
Wielder of the Baratheon BANHAMMER
Status: Offline
Posts: 4649
Date:
Permalink  
 
Macha wrote:
 

 Ay, come now Donnie, he hasn't been that gullible since he left the wildlings in Season...what was it? I think Ygritte's death was the tipping point. Not sure if ruthless, but surely he'll be even more determined maybe not only to lead the fight against the WW, but also to avenge his family, especially now that he realizes the Night's Watch isn't what it was anymore. 

 What will happen now? Now that his vows are done with the NW, and Sansa hopefully meeting them. Will they regroup to assault and take back Winterfell? Even with the Wildlings, there are not enough to go against a Bolton/Umber/Karstark army.

Hmmmm....where is Littlefinger with his Eyrie Army during all this?



__________________

"Robert was never the same after he put on that crown. Some men are like swords, made for fighting. Hang them up and they go to rust.” -DN
HaiYouGuise2
Lady Dondarrion
Status: Offline
Posts: 75
Date:
Permalink  
 

yeah but that's missing memories n shizz



__________________

That's LADY Dondarrion to you
 
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.
 


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse 		Powered by ActiveBoard