TormundsWoman wrote:

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Rygar wrote:

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TormundsWoman wrote:

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Yep, that's the kind of creepy vibe I got from Paul's mom, Ly. Which is probably why he's got girlfriend issues?! Maybe. 

 

He is struggling with his homosexuality. 

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 Which is why I was saying "Maybe" when it comes to Mom's issues. As far as him being gay, I wasn't sure if I picked up on it right. He WAS looking at that young man on the corner from 4th floor with no reason at all apparently. I think it might be a combination.

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 I gave Nic Pizzolatto the benefit of the doubt in episode one, but episode two pretty much confirms to me that Paul has gayngst.  Unless Nicky Pizz has some elaborate scheme up his sleeve and is just using these clues to mislead us, but I really do not think so.  I actually like the transparency.  

 

 

I didn't Cary. Smash the beetles, you say. I fucking hated that speech. But some think it is the greatest thing in that ep! Who am I to piss in their cereal?!

So someone cleans up Vince Vaughn's character crew and partner. Has to be personal. I keep thinking Pizzolato will make it probably a street robber or something equally semi anticlimatic like last season. Surprised about the rubber shot. Another clue that it wasn't anyone else they were trying to off, only Frank Symion's peeps. Maybe he didn't know Velcoro is one bought by Frank. Weird dream for Frank.

Strange feeling I have about this season. The story is slow moving yet the episode is passing by fast. Not sure why that is.

As for the Cary Fukunaga rumor and Nic casting a director that looks like him to parody the man, I think it's absolutely horseshit. I didn't see it in the scene and for the record I sat for the credits. Fukunaga still listed as an exec producer for this season. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

I'm liking it. OLS wanted to watch Ep 3 right away at 6pm after we watched Ep 2. Like TW said, the pacing is slow but I'm really getting into it.

Meh. I'm with Donnie. It's not doing much for me, but I'll keep watching for now.

As usual, I liked the crazy Vinci head of police, his wacko family (whats with his wife's eyes?), and the state vs. Vinci stuff. Aside from that, more yawns. I'll keep watching, but besides the upcoming orgy scene, who cares?

:orgy:

If I read it on the internet, it has to be true!

I just watched episode 1 and man is Collin Farrel a miscast, which is a shame because the character is great. And Vince Vaughn is also unsurprisingly meh. I do like the Sheriff woman (Anna???) and the other cop (was it Paul?), though. Don't know if I'll keep watching. What do you all think?

pizzalatte is a scam, check what a fellow detractor posted at iwc:

lovecraftzine.com/2014/08/04/did-the-writer-of-true-detective-plagiarize-thomas-ligotti-and-others/

Meh. Nic Pizz admited to the Ligotti influence. Nothing new here.

some of those excerpts where word for word.

if it was just the simlar motifs, i'd be fine with it, but he went way too far. and keep in mind those were the parts that made Mccnaughey and Harrison get on board with the project.

you really should read the article i linked.

The article i posted covers that, but since you're not going to read it i'll paste it here:

"MD: But in this Wall Street Journal interview, Pizzolatto does talk at length about Ligotti’s influence on the show.

JP: Only under pressure. Here’s what was happening behind the scenes: WSJ reporter Michael Calia and I (and plenty of other Ligotti readers) had already noticed that Rust Cohle’s monologues and other dialogue were peculiarly Ligottian (his prose is very distinctive). In an interview with the True Detective creator, Arkham Digest editor Justin Steele even brought up Cohle’s “Ligottian wordview”, and I was frustrated when Pizzolatto evaded his question, at least as it concerned Thomas Ligotti or his work. Three of nine commenters on that interview page also noticed that Pizzolatto appeared to be evasive in dealing with the Ligotti influence question. At that point, I tried to get an interview with Pizzolatto about Ligotti’s influence on True Detective—writing to his agent—but I was told politely that Pizzolatto was “up to his ears in post-production and working on season two of True Detective.”

Then I started digging. Mr. Calia was coincidentally already working on an article centering on the influence by past and present masters of weird horror tales on True Detective, so I decided to analyze Cohle’s familiar dialogue and compare it side by side with Ligotti’s prose in The Conspiracy Against the Human Race. I quickly sent Mr. Calia the results of my research, and he used just the tip of the iceberg of evidence I had uncovered in his article – perhaps cannily implying that “The Most Shocking Thing About HBO’s ‘True Detective’” was that Pizzolatto lifted text and ideas from an author he had hitherto explicitly refused to acknowledge as an influence.

Shortly after the article’s publication, Calia interviewed Pizzolatto in a follow-up to his original article. It seems that the “too busy” writer suddenly had time for an interview mostly about, you guessed it, Thomas Ligotti. Usually I would give any kind of writer who appeared so praising of Ligotti the benefit of the doubt, but I knew how deep the plagiarism issue ran, and I had no illusions that Pizzolatto suddenly and coincidentally wanted to talk about Ligotti after already having dozens and dozens of opportunities to do so before. Was Pizzolatto in damage control mode (i.e., “I don’t want to get in legal trouble” mode)? Quite suddenly Thomas Ligotti was one of his top literary influences, an acknowledgement that would never be repeated again in a full-length interview or, to my knowledge, elsewhere."

Looks like the best detective work this season was about plagiarism!

Fucked up, yes! I think it is hilarious how shady stuff can get ya in this business.

Hahaha "Words are Wind!"

Oyoyoy! What was that?! Also best pick up line so far: "You have the biggest aura I've ever seen. Green and Black. You must have lived 100 lives." (can't remember exactly but it's appox)

Most of the ep was same hum-drum noir drama, but that last shootout was pretty damn good.

Ani is gonna catch all the blame for this isn't she, eventhough I don't feel it was her fault. But multiple police and civilian casualties, that is gonna be a goddamn mess.

i like this ep and not for the shootout. i liked the gay dude's "slip" and he's terrible morning after. specially his dialogue with Detective Velcro.

Ah, it makes sense the last ep was a marked improvement, it was directed by Jeremy Podeswa, the "Hardhome" director of GOT, dude can direct the hell out of an action scene!

You are correct Ry, I needs me coffee

she can come to my house, tell me all about her daddy issues and i'll take care of her

Aside from the shootout at the end, what a snore of an episode 4. The whole Vince Vaughn motif of having to be the bad mobster guy because his crappy little empire isn't paying out is starting to get really really old. It was old in episode 2...especially now that we've only seen his cronies beat up one guy on the side of the road. Taylor Kitsch, OK he's gay. Tell me again why this matters at all? We're halfway through the season and at this point Miguel Sapochnik can't even save this trainwreck.

p.s. orgy

 

(((((Mike drop)))))

This show is really bad. Terrible bland characters get the most clichéd trite bullshit backgrounds to give them depth or to make them edgy. Gay angst war veteran who got his girlfriend pergnant, tough bitch cop with daddy-issues, drunk degenerate cop who can't see his son, mobster with moneytroubles who can't have kids. Then on top of that we have Game of Thrones quality dialogue, an awful soundtrack, subpar acting and the shootout was badly directed, unrealistic and just fucking stupid. The story is way too fucking simple to stretch it out over multiple episodes, Law&Order would have wrapped this up neatly in 1 episode. No reason to keep on watching.

-- Edited by JapieQ on Monday 13th of July 2015 07:24:43 PM