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TormundsWoman
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Ry, you'll probably forget to watch. I rather liked it. Felt horrible for the dayrape drug she got sprayed with, Happy Molly or what was it's name and definitely liked the break in the two loser cops did. Clearly the guy who hired Frank to find the hard drive and the Russian one who kept busting Frank's balls are colluding.

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I thought that was to remove the cock breath

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Preemptive care, then! I like the way you think.

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Two scenes worked well, the initial standoff in the kitchen had some good acting and tension.
And the orgy, while lacking boobs and booty did have some good atmosphere and Rachel was really good in that scene.

Other than that, I had no idea what the deal was with the Mexican girl subplot, at first I thought that was the girl Rachel was looking for, instead that girl turns out at the party and gets rescued.

Also I have no idea who the dead guy was, his wife and the kid V.V was consoling, how come this season SUCKS terribly at keeping plots and characters clear?

Last season, we had all those intriquite plots happening over 3 (!!!) time periods and it was all quite clear. I guess last seasons director was the one that kept it all in focus.

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Don, Frank (Vince Vaugh) was consoling Ben Casper's wife and kid. At least that's what I understood. And the the Mexican girl subplot was about the shooting. Apparently it was a thin white cop that gave her Ben Casper's things to pawn. They were following that lead because they wanted to get the hard drive and the missing tapes from Ben Casper's place. Now you make me wonder if I got all of that right teehee

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TormundsWoman wrote:

Don, Frank (Vince Vaugh) was consoling Ben Casper's wife and kid. At least that's what I understood. 

 See I went online, and I read that they were consoling "Stan's" wife and kid, Stan was the employee they found in the basement of the club with the same gouged out eyes...see? You also got confused.

This show I swear. poop



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total confusion! Thanks. Don. That part was very unclear because I don't think I heard the name Stan and I'm pretty sure they didn't mention how attached Frank and his wife were of "Stan". I just thought it was Casper since everything revolves around him.

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DonalNoyesArm wrote:
TormundsWoman wrote:

Don, Frank (Vince Vaugh) was consoling Ben Casper's wife and kid. At least that's what I understood. 

 See I went online, and I read that they were consoling "Stan's" wife and kid, Stan was the employee they found in the basement of the club with the same gouged out eyes...see? You also got confused.

This show I swear. poop

 Yeah, I had figured that out. So at least one of us is paying attention. Also, there can be more than one Mexican girl. You racist. 

Anyway, I really enjoyed the escape at the end.  And the Russian dude bleeding suddenly.  I thought that was phenomenal! I was on the edge of my seat. 



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Was I the only one that found Ray's bender with the ton of liquor, cocaine, cigarettes and the works hilarious.

It was so over the top it felt like a comedy skit.

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Colleague at work, when asked about his thoughts on TDS2, had this to say, rather succinctly, "It's not bad, it's not good."

Yep.

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I had my dad watch this episode with me (ugh, had to go get a drink during the orgy scene teehee) and of the "booze/drug scene" with Colin, my dad goes: "Judas Priest, what's the guy trying to kill himself?".

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Rygar wrote:

"It's not bad, it's not good."

 Yup, nailed it pretty much.hmm



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Ly I had Proseco all weekend. helped when it came to viewing TD. However, it impaired my capacity of understanding the Stan issue

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Loved it. Don't know why. I understood everything and when it was done half of it was gone teehee Nah, I know Osip was ALWAYS playing Frank and Chessani's kid was in on it. Also the '92 cops that did the diamond's double murder apparently included Velcoro's Vinci boss. Don't know how Erica/Laura (the surviving daughter of the jewelry owner fits in... Revenge maybe? And I can't believe that just after saying all heros survive Paul buys it. :riot:

So anyway WHY did I love it? The whole ending of the ep felt like a '70 Alain Delon movie (see Un Flic for example) I positively LOVED it. The montage showing the different characters doing stuff, the soft melancholy music and sound, the dark (black and white tendency images) some because of Franks suit burning down the club, or the dark in those underground tunnels... or any combination of those. Cheesy that Ani hooked up with Ray but I suspect it is the instinctual fuck after a high strung emotional situation. And being cooked up in there with Colin Farrell. Boy I typed a lot. Anyway that's about all I can say right now.

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I found myself singing, "burn baby burn (disco inferno), burn baby burn, burn that mutha down, Frank!" cheese But no baufin'? Aww, you're kiddin' me, Colin facepalm

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So when they killed Woodraugh, I was kinda like "meh", the season did not build him up into someone I cared for, and his lowly acting chops didn't help.

Ani and Ray hooking up, did they really have to? I did like it when he blew her off because she was high on molly, but still.

MVP for the episode was VV, some good momentum and moments for his character, him beating down his weaselly assistant and burning down his joints was very neat, tho I feel doing that will bring hell with it.

Lets go to the finale so we can see how this show limps to the finish line.

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It was Rick Springfield all along.

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Ok this POS show just got all Departed.

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meh


i mean, it's not bad... but eh.. it's ok.

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Lyanna Stark wrote:

I found myself singing, "burn baby burn (disco inferno), burn baby burn, burn that mutha down, Frank!" 

  Funny as hell, Ly!



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I'm finally caught up. I was okay with the last couple of eps of this show till the Blackwater (or whatever) scene. Then I got mad again. Lol. Who writes this shit? I'm good with golden boy being dead, but that was complete tripe. I wish they had done it at the beginning of the three episodes I watched instead of the end. I could have salvaged two and a half hours of my evening by turning it off.

I thought about the first shootout being a setup to kill the two dirty cops. It's a preposterous plot twist. The baddies staged a shootout between gangbangers and a bunch of cops with the goal of killing two particular cops? How did they talk those gangbangers into giving their lives to accomplish that? How did a bunch of gangbangers who spray bullets in random directions actually manage to kill their two targets? It's laughable.

Other than that, it's an okay show. I liked VV's showdown with the traitor. And I liked his little crime spree to get even with everyone. So I guess they'll kill him in the finale.

I'll watch the final episode, but I'm deeply disappointed in this show. Such wasted potential. I'll be surprised if there's a third season.

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I'll watch the final episode, but I'm deeply disappointed in this show. Such wasted potential. I'll be surprised if there's a third season.

 Nic is a one hit wonder, I might come back to the show if they bring back season 1's director and a new writer, cuz man....what a sophomore slump!



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You all could do anything else with your time other than watch this show.

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I think The Guardian missed Ry's "Rick did it".
www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/aug/07/true-detective-place-bets-identity-killer
Paul Woodrough and the depressed bar singer take my vote!



-- Edited by TormundsWoman on Saturday 8th of August 2015 09:51:02 AM

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They didn't mess it up! dance total cheese on Ani's front. However I like cheese Can't believe they killed Pitlor. I was rooting for him to be in with Osip and the other guy! I was sure Frank will be out safe to be honest but Ray was clear as daylight he'll go to his son. And the Vinci PD was on to him. What shocked me was that the twins were Ben Casper's kids freakout does that mean Ben pimped and humpy his own daughter?!?! freakout Pretty long finish and glad Ani made it.

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Fucking shitty season. Really bad. I wanted to pour acid in my OWN eyes when this ep went more than 55 mins.

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Other than that, it's an okay show. I liked VV's showdown with the traitor. And I liked his little crime spree to get even with everyone. So I guess they'll kill him in the finale.

 LOL you so right Basi, I should have seen it coming!



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I called the Mexicans offing him. This season was so predictable it made me finger my OWN ass.



-- Edited by Rygar on Sunday 9th of August 2015 10:59:06 PM

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This is just hitting me. So that is the reason Lenny lost it at the Anaheim train station. Because he basically realized he killed his own father. On top of the incest. Pizolatto went all out with the Greek tragedy shit this season. No wonder he picked Antigone and Athena as names for two characters

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I called the Mexicans offing him. This season was so predictable it made me finger my OWN ass.



-- Edited by Rygar on Sunday 9th of August 2015 10:59:06 PM

you did not! You said no ass play.:p



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... Pizolatto went all out with the Greek tragedy shit this season. No wonder he picked Antigone and Athena as names for two characters

 

Ha.  So I guess the bar singer was a Siren?  Hence VVs hypnosis when she sang at the end.  Luring him and CF in for the demise, never being able to escape to a "normal" life.   How very tommen

 

I have some real issues with this season but first and foremost I felt the acting was so bad that it could not make the pain of the horrible writing any less endurable. 



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Was going to hurl when the chick dick walked into the hotel room and saw Vince's wife holding that baby. I was going, "noooooo" and then it turned out to be the chick dick's baby, thank the Seven. Freaked me out. Too many good byes for Colin's character to make it, but I was hoping he would take out all of those crooks in the woods at the same time, somehow. I always felt like chick dick would jump off that boat at any moment and swim back to try and save him. Was really on the edge of my seat this whole episode. Really thought Vince's character would just walk out of the desert, but when the gang banger wanted his suit, ooops, that's all she wrote. Another "nooooo" minute. Also liked the "blade kid" who was totally off the rails, sitting in the airport and overhearing the conversation. I was not in love with the characters this year like I was last year, but it was enjoyable over all.

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i'm just glad it's over

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A decent ending episode, the character arches stayed where I expected them to.

The cabin shootout was a nice set piece, and I was kinda hoping Velcoro would take the money and run, but noooo had to say bye to chubs the boy, and VV could've just given the Mexican his jacket, but he had to be prideful and it cost him.

So is Ani planning revenge with Red? There might be more story there, but honestly I am done with this group.

Lets see if there even will be a season 3.




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found on reddit's TD sub:

Every Vaughn/Farrell scene

 

even the dialogue is similar



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Can we forever close this thread?

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Colleague at work, when asked about his thoughts on TDS2, had this to say, rather succinctly, "It's not bad, it's not good."

Yep.

 

he was right, it wasn't bad, it wasn't good, it was FUPPING AWFUL



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Rygar wrote:

Can we forever close this thread?

  ooops sorry* missed this

 

 

 

 

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This thing will never die! Should we open a True Detective 3 thread, Ry? deadline.com/2017/06/true-detective-mahershala-ali-in-talks-star-potential-season-3-1202122466/

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I have to agree with Ry. True Detective Season 2 was a piece of shit. I could say the same about S1 to some extent, despite the good acting and some fine directing, if only because Nic Pizza-latte fucking stole all the good bits from Thomas Ligotti's book "Conspiracy Against the Human Race".
After inflicting TD S2 on us, I have no interest whatsoever in a third season of his hack writing.

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Unless they oust the entire creative team, I have serious doubts about the quality of the show. The second season was a real stinker.

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